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FRIGN
Evil_Bob: Ah man
you need to do it
I'm not proficient enough with Make
Evil_Bob
FRIGN: dude you are as proficient as i am :)
"just do eeet fgt" - nike
FRIGN
Evil_Bob: Yo, it is a real mess of includes and headers
like, even if I pre-generate the headers with awk, there's some strange overlap
Evil_Bob
yea those needs to be cleaned up first then
it should be like sbase or BSD
FRIGN
k0gan needs to do it. I don't even know the codebase really well
Evil_Bob
yea me neither yet
FRIGN
*k0ga
henriqueleng
How do you guys like html? It sucks?
wondering if I waste my time learning it
gillz
i guess it depends i think it is good to know
henriqueleng
gillz: I'm building a basic site, but I don't know how deep I go. I listen bad things about the web, but maybe simple html + css is not that bad
gillz
yea i think that is not bad. It also is good when you want to learn how to break a site
retard
as long as you keep sh*t simple it's fine
well
xml/sgml is still dreadful, but
henriqueleng
I noted that with the same file size http is so fast as gopher
almost*
I don't know why each protocol have a file format associated with it
dsockwell
henrique html is simple and you can pick it up in an hour
javascript is harder
don't learn just html
henriqueleng
dsockwell: Yes, I' hate javascript based sites
dsockwell
so every single website ever?
since 1995
henriqueleng
dsockwell: hehe, almost. It also makes browsers suck
dsockwell
right.
maybe computers aren't your thing
that wouldn't be such a bad decision to make, there are plenty of other things for you to spend your life doing
henriqueleng
dsockwell: I agree
I get really angry when people hide information inside javascript stuff, makes me wanna die
dsockwell
no, i mean you personally. have you thought about journalism or something?
henriqueleng
or sites that if you open in a non javascript browser it makes no sense, tottaly messed
dsockwell: These guys that are journalists, trying to get a life in computing
dsockwell
it might be a good trade for you to make
henriqueleng
dsockwell: Why? I'm not a hipster
dsockwell
so maybe not journalism
henriqueleng
hehe, joker
dsockwell
stationary engineering?
business?
you might secretly be really good at math?
henriqueleng
whaaat
such a strange talk
are you a psychologist?
dsockwell
no, but would you like to be?
henriqueleng
dsockwell: I think you fits better in this area
dsockwell
i don't think i could deal with other peoples' problems
so i couldn't be that kind of psychologist
henriqueleng
dsockwell: I hope you find what you really like to do
dsockwell
maybe i should take a degree in math
anyway
that's my answer to your question 'should i bother to learn HTML'
henriqueleng
dsockwell: so long time to answer
dsockwell
it's a hard question
a very interesting one
henriqueleng
dsockwell: Coll that you liked
I mean cool
dsockwell: so don't you have a degree yet?
dsockwell
no i'm uneducated
i'm a profoundly stupid person
henriqueleng
dsockwell: how old?
dsockwell
i'm 30.
half dead already
there is simply not enough time for me to do anything but browse dank memes
henriqueleng
dsockwell: How do you live?
dsockwell
what do you mean
how am i not dead?
henriqueleng
how only look at dank memes permit you to live?
dsockwell
you sound like my dad
henriqueleng
dsockwell: You sound like a stand-up comedian
dsockwell
if i wasn't already 30 maybe i'd be one
henriqueleng
dsockwell: You can be a web programmer, since you know html
dsockwell
i'd rather starve to death next week
henriqueleng
(Action) stop joking
dsockwell: I'm now in normal mode, please change you too
dsockwell
what?
no i'm really 30 and without a degree
and very likely better off dead
henriqueleng
dsockwell: but you obviously aren't addicted to dank memes
dsockwell
what does it matter if i am or not?
henriqueleng
dsockwell: Whoo knows
interesting question
retard
dsockwell: javascript is garbage, web is sh*t and fu*ked up
hypertext was a good idea
money has broken it
noone who loves or even likes computers likes the web
gillz
retard: It is amazing from a point that you can even connect to a web site. Internet = send sh*t and hope it gets there cause if not you fu*ked
retard
gillz: robustness principle
dsockwell
i never said it was any good, but knowing html with no intent to use javascript is dumb
tm512
so I think I'm going to call my kernel Ixion
seems like an okay name for it
retard
that's bullsh*t, dsockwell
hypertext is actually a genuinely good idea, turning the web into a sh*tty platform is not
dsockwell
if you say so
of everything i said, though
retard
and there's a fu*kton of webduhsigners who don't even html anymore
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