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stateless
later tonight I suppose
it is like 300-400G
biniar
that's what she said
<@stateless> later tonight I suppose
stateless
;)
Evil_Bob
:)
biniar
time to go ride the bike
Evil_Bob
lolwtf http://i.imgur.com/TuHMTBK.jpg
atmc
stateless: 300G? it syncs all snapshots? :D
isn't amd64/ and packages/amd64 enough?
stateless
atmc, it will be all of them
except releases, only snapshots
I have an octeon machine
plus some i386 ones
wth :)
plus the sparc
atmc
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11781706_928417097199442_3578131878264414417_n.jpg?oh=d1a2b2526cb772f408f1492a6f0e9e7f&oe=560E9547
stateless
FRIGN, https://blog.tox.chat/
https://blog.tox.chat/2015/07/current-situation-3/
fail
Evil_Bob
:o
but more importantly did they fix the horrible API yet? :P
stateless
woah mirror synced
Evil_Bob, http://mirrors.2f30.org/OpenBSD/snapshots/
Evil_Bob
heh thats alot of stuff :D
noice
atmc
httpd? :D
Evil_Bob
yea
stateless
yup
with some hacks
tcp nodelay + prefork 6 ;)
Evil_Bob
it has improved alot the last few months
stateless
yes
"i keep a 4.3BSD UWISC vm on simh that I use to IRC from time to time... screen is the killer application for me."
that's where I say
w t f
CandyGumdrop
Is using ffmpeg supposed to be very broken and difficult?
As in the libav* C API stuff
atmc
CandyGumdrop: nothing is documented
stateless
"I can only speak from my experiences: interacting with the OpenBSD core community is a pretty rough experience with brusque/caustic responses and reported issues not being addressed (I had two minor ones, and nothing came from either). My NetBSD experience is limited, but similarly brusque (though less caustic). I've heard there are alternate forum sites for OpenBSD/NetBSD support where folks are friendlier, but they're not core. Meanwhile, my interactions w
atmc
CandyGumdrop: NOTHING
stateless
because his opinion is valid.
CandyGumdrop, the api is terrible
and yes probably highly undocumented and/or out of date
Evil_Bob
CandyGumdrop: i heard ffmpeg is better maintained than libav
CandyGumdrop
There's a doxygen thing I've been reading
stateless
I hate doxygen :(
they poison the code with sh*t because they can't write proper man pages
CandyGumdrop
There seems to be no way of listing all the devices on things like dshow to list webcam devices
Evil_Bob
yeah, and API's need a general explanation too (not just the function interfaces)
CandyGumdrop
Well there is a way, but it is unimplemented and returns an error
stateless
"You say OpenBSD lags in performance. By how much? I'm willing to accept a 5% downgrade, but not a 10% downgrade.
lol
I am really glad tm512 switched away from openbsd
CandyGumdrop
I like OpenBSD, but there seems to be no proper way of updating it
stateless
and I just ate a whole box of hummus
CandyGumdrop, hm?
atmc
stateless: who writes this sh*t?
CandyGumdrop
You have to manually delete a bunch of files and build things from source and manually replace everything with tarballs
stateless
no
you just reboot into a new bsd.rd
it is true you need to clean up your system afterwards however
someone is working on fixing the latter
will go in after 5.8 most likely
but it is not really an issue
CandyGumdrop
It seems vey convoluted to follow -stable, since that's what most people would want to use on production servers
stateless
well follow -current, there's not much sense running -stable on a laptop
you do not need to rebuild anything then
if that's really an issue :)
atmc
CandyGumdrop: there is ajacoutot with his m-stable stuff
stateless
yes there is m:tier too
atmc
mtier-stable
CandyGumdrop
When I had a go at updating to -current before, there was a big list of things it told me to delete and change manually, but that seems confusing to me if I were to update from one -current to another -current
stateless
if you use -stable for servers and you have many of them, you can automate the process easily without using crap like puppet
CandyGumdrop, they inform you about possible things you need to take into account
as opposed to landing an upgrade on you and then looking for hours on google and random forums
:P
again some of these issues will be addressed from what I've read
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html
most of these changes take a few seconds to understand and perform
and most are irrelevant to a large number of people
CandyGumdrop
I do want to get back into OpenBSD. I just find myself booting back into Gentoo though.
stateless
or only relevant to certain groups of people rather
I can't believe you are complaining about compiling
Evil_Bob
CandyGumdrop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4
stateless
:P
CandyGumdrop
Well I don't really mind compiling stuff. It seems a bit much for the kind of people who might maintain servers though
stateless
I never liked gentoo because it gives me too much freedom
I want someone else to shove his system down my throat
FRIGN, ^^
Evil_Bob
thats what she said
stateless
;)
CandyGumdrop, again not necessary
you don't have to build ot
it*
even without using m:tier
CandyGumdrop
Another issue is that Second Life probably won't work on OpenBSD
stateless
you can always replicate a similar setup in-house
what is second life? :P
CandyGumdrop
Some game thing
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