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atmc
done
stateless
__20h__, love the bike
atmc, the well known definition of a Lebesgue space follows
put it at the end
I think
atmc: http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-Fourth-William-Strunk/dp/020530902X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1439632373&sr=1-1&keywords=the+elements+of+style
this is a good book
well the last edition
mos
most technical authors are really bad at explaining stuff
atmc
yea i should probably get a book about writing style
stateless
and if you are into computers, you can't read k&r a million times to learn english
__20h__
That's why papers should be 3D models and drawings.
atmc
or plots
stateless
so maybe reading other stuff from other fields is probably a better exercise
__20h__
Medical papers are easily to grasp. Just wait for the brackets and the statistical numbers.
stateless
I was once reading some a book by bertrand russell and I was like "wtf this is a good use of language"
atmc
:D
__20h__
It's always the same: »We did some flawed study and had to make these exceptions to save money and of course get the result our sponsor wanted.«
stateless
__20h__, what I dislike with scientific papers is that a) they use text to explain things that could be graphed and b) they do not provide source to reproduce their findings
__20h__
»We asked one person about how he felt after taking the new pill. In five minutes he felt better. Then we stopped the study due to overwhelming success.«
stateless
well I am talking about cs papers
haha
__20h__
That's something moving in the medical world. There's pressure to open up all data.
Because the pharmaceutical mafia is hiding too much important information.
That's why you need around 20 studies and then a meta study to really find useful information.
Of course most professionals stopped listening closely because they hide behind long papers with juse nonsense.
stateless
__20h__, for medical stuff, how easy is it to conduct your own research without necessary access to expensive equipment?
__20h__
»We have a relative risk reduction of 200%!«
What nonsense.
stateless, nearly impossible.
stateless
right, thought so
what if you do have a lab?
__20h__
For drugs you need one billion EUR.
stateless
ok.
__20h__
The lab needs to be funded.
There's only one way to to do this properly.
s/to to/to/
k0ga
stateless: linksys spa 941 or 942
stateless
k0ga, I would prefer cordless if possible
do I need ATA for that?
k0ga
no
stateless
ok
__20h__
stateless, technical innovation happened with lab tests.
k0ga
there is a version that is POE
if I remember it correctly
__20h__
That's where you need a small budget.
stateless
k0ga, will look for used ones
__20h__
But treatment is expensive.
stateless
I see
__20h__
stateless, all this political correctness made it impossible to do real research.
Like 80% of all drugs aren't allowed to be given to children.
You can't just pick some for the tests.
And all the insurance crap.
»Human rights«
stateless
right yeah
__20h__
If privacy and data rights get human rights CS could get a problem too.
RAM with moral bits.
»You are accused of forbidden algorithm research!«
atmc
lol
stateless
__20h__, that might not be too far from reality if you are a company doing crypto stuff
maybe not for the same reasons
but forbidden algorithm research is a possibility
__20h__
You're thinking of the bad side.
But on the »good side« all the privacy activists try to prevent skynet.
Skynet is our only future.
I found a new theme for my Skynet implementation. I will keep the humans in a never ending festival.
stateless
that should do the trick
__20h__
It seems like that's something all of them will accept without hesitation.
k0ga
I don't know in another fields, but in cs, the system is totally corrupted
stateless
said the spaniard
k0ga
they are a group of persons that know they are not doing anything
stateless
k0ga, I agree with you :P
__20h__
k0ga, all of science is.
Look at how you write a paper in medicine: Your professors could want you to reference papers to the dark ages.
It's a complexity problem.
k0ga
stateless: I didn't know before entering where I am now, that is a research center
but it is incredible
stateless
k0ga, at my company, not even 5% that comes out of research is used in products
most innovations are done by people implementing stuff
not researchers
well "innovations"
k0ga
I said once to my boss: "This cannot be used because `some stuff related to operating systems`", and we replied me "don't worry the people who is going to read it don't know about operating systems"
Evil_Bob
__20h__: you might like this if you havent seen it yet: http://flab.be/1gGAoER
stateless
lol
Evil_Bob
__20h__: live kernel debugging the human brain ;)
stateless
Evil_Bob, you can do that wirelessly
Evil_Bob
stateless: lool
stateless
with a baseball bat
k0ga
there is a movement to try to fix it
there are some comunities that force you to send your artifact to be evaluated to
(artifact -> the implementation of what you are talking about)
atmc
k0ga: yea in bio/chemics this will be required in the future
because if you mail the author
stateless
k0ga, yeah
atmc
you get a sh*tload of matlab files
and no one can reproduce it but the auther
author
stateless
k0ga, what I dislike in research is that people these days tend to focus on one thing only, it is easy to find a researcher that knows a few things about parallel computing but nothing about compilers
yes yes I know it is too much info but people should at least have a feel about all the branches in their field
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