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making pancakes :)
atmc
IOTS NOT SUNDAY
holy crap
universe is falling apart
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haha yes :P
lostd
stateless: wtf? this is wrong
moarning
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lostd, what is wrong
lostd
sat pancakes
:P
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aaah
lol
lostd, it is not what it sounds
lostd
lol
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my layers are issuing a formal motion to explain my situation
lawyers
lostd
they better be good because you just entered some seriously muddy waters
layers of lawyers
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hahaha
lostd, thinking a bit about how to set up a secondary mx
it seems to be common case that the secondary mail server will not attempt to deliver the mail but instead queue it up until the primary is back up
which makes it easier to integrate with ipsec
or at least that's my understanding, first time looking at this
I see some people do not recommend a backup mx
hm
lostd
on the send path, we are mostly fine because the client will fail on the first, try the second
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yes the send path is easy
you just have two ipsec tunnels and let mutt figure it out
lostd
the thing is, how do we manage the failover
are there going to be two MX records with weights?
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that's the initial idea yes
lostd
if that's the case, an MTA could choose the second one for whatever reason
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the second one, probes the first until it is back online and delivers the message
lostd
if it doesn't follow that weights
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it is a queue-and-store arch
so you will still get the mail from the primary
lostd
aha
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you never get the email directly from the 2nd
lostd
so it is just for MTAs, not a master/slave model
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yes
of course
there's also the spamd aspect of things
initially we can just have two separate spam databases
lostd
could work, how do we get the mails forwarded between the two is what we need to configure
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there are ways to distribute it though between the 2 servers
smtpd supports this
lostd
k
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alternatively
you need 3 servers, one to forward to two others
but that requires a) more servers and b) if the top level server is down you are fu*ked
single point of failure
doesn't solve much
lostd
yeah, this gives nothing except for maybe redundancy
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it only works if the top level server is guaranteed to be 100% up
lostd
we can just have fs backups for that
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like hosted somewhere else
out of your control
like maybe some registrars support this
lostd
I don't like this last part
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yes
lostd
I think I've seen that kind of servces yes
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also
you can have two mail servers
mx1 and mx2
but you need user accounts present on both of them
I think
which is not an issue
I think it can be done without having user accounts on both
http://frozen-geek.net/openbsd-email-server-1/
Evil_Bob_
moin/afternoon
lostd
http://skunx7.wix.com/bliss-box
Evil_Bob_
what is it? it seems to load a gazillion scripts...
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http://sprunge.us/DTgR
cool integrated the bgp blacklist too
Evil_Bob_
the bgp blacklist looks seriously cool, why is there even spam anyway :)
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yeah
I have 40k entries in it
Evil_Bob_
(thats what she said)
sorry couldnt resist
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lol
Evil_Bob
someone ban ~Thunderbi@* ;P
Drakevr
lol
ok i can get over and ignire pidgin as irc client
but thunderbird?
s/ignire/ignore/
tragic..
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lol
Evil_Bob
http://i.imgur.com/OVHoIu5.gif
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lol
yo
k0ga
tu
Evil_Bob
soup
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k0ga, shouldn't that be ti
k0ga
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/444097213225059545/
stateless: tu
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lol
k0ga
'yo' is for subject
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k0ga, i thought u moved left on the keyboard by one column and made a typo
k0ga
ti is for indirect/direct after preposition
I have not coded anything today
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