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stateless
emacs is a way of life
it is not a particular implementation
Evil_Bob
nvi is pretty decent, but im kinda tired of vi
except if mg isnt available
stateless
fu*k modes
vi users look crippled
when they type
:P
Evil_Bob
hah yea :)
k0ga
I think there are more important things now
stateless
yes k0ga
sublime text
Evil_Bob
and speaking for vim: vimscript is retarded
stateless
some people tell you to slow down, think more and type less
that's bs
k0ga
I was talking about the shell :P
Evil_Bob
if anything they shouldve used lua or whatever at some point
stateless
the faster you type, the more you get done.
k0ga
we can implement first awk, dc, bc
stateless
k0ga, I don't care about sh
any possible implementation will suck because sh inherently sucks
like mksh is good enough
dusty`
yeah i want a new shell language that's simpler
why do you want dc and bc?
I gcuess just because they exist..
stateless
I use bc every day
k0ga
I use dc
stateless
sorry no python fanboy here
:P
k0ga, :P
k0ga
:P
for some things dc is better, and for others dc is better
stateless
lol
k0ga
argggg
last dc -> bc
^^!
stateless
i feel like im writing forth every time i use dc
im sure __20h__ uses python for this
his patients ask to pay and he is like
let me fire up my awesome python interpreter in this awesome hardened gentoo system that I have
let me switch to the ultra hardened namespace to perform this calculation
that will be 100 euros
dusty`
lmao
Evil_Bob
im getting hard just thinking about his hardened gentoo
stateless
Evil_Bob, and it never stops building
it is getting harder and harder
__20h__
stateless, I'm firing up ipython to have clustering and numpy at hand.
stateless
I knew it
Evil_Bob
every programmer needs a cluster to calculate his groceries
__20h__
Evil_Bob, it's loaded when needed.
Try to scale dc.
stateless
scale up or down? :P
I can run dc on my microcontroller with bsd 2.11
k0ga
__20h__: what do you think about implementing k&r functions?
__20h__
k0ga, it's needed to compile the Plan 9 code.
k0ga
do you think? I read in the Thompson paper they didn't implement them in kencc
stateless
why would they? :P
__20h__
Then I don't know what you mean, because as said, I'm not into compilers and don't follow this discussion.
k0ga
yeah, they didn't try to be conforming
stateless
__20h__, he means int foo(a, b) int a; int b; { ... }
k0ga
int f(a,b) char a; int *b; {...}
stateless
yeah they are implicitly int so my example is redundant :P
k0ga
:P
stateless
in any case, I can't stand the syntax :P
I wasn't around when this was acceptable to society
k0ga
you still had to born xD
stateless
well I wasn't coding let's say when this was trendy
I was around
k0ga
I began to use computers in 86
this was trendy until 93-94
stateless
I started playing computer games in 93
:P
well 92
k0ga
stateless: I began playing games and trying to code in BASIC
stateless
I had a 2x cd writer in 95
k0ga
but it was too much cmplex for me xD
stateless
I was the sh*t
__20h__
k0ga, I've seen such code in Plan 9.
k0ga
ok
stateless
are you sure it wasn't some UNIX nightmare taking over you in the Plan9 dream land?
__20h__
stateless, Plan 9 is no dream land, it does exist.
stateless
like a bad trip of sorts
k0ga
The problem with K&R functions is that at the end, they are equivalent to (...)
I mean
stateless
__20h__, I know, I am just impersonating someone who has no respect for such things
unless major corps are backing the tech
__20h__
stateless, you're bad at such trolling.
stateless
you take things seriously
:P
__20h__
Suckless is based on Plan 9.
Of course it has to be taken seriously.
stateless
2f30 is based on cat-v
kori
2f30 is actually cat-v in disguise
tell nobody
stateless
it is a bad bad imitation
yes
very clumsy
__20h__
stateless, where does cat-v come from?
stateless
from berkeley waving flags
:P
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