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stateless
radare2 has gone to sh*t i think
pancake is a capable coder but this code looks like crap
dsockwell
maybe someone should help with the network stuff
i tried to bludgeon that code into at least not failing sometimes
but it needs to just be replaced
stateless
it seems insane that this programmer needs to care about the interface's mtu
in radare2
:P
dsockwell
im fully willing to believe that pancake is a specialist and shouldn't be asked to write netcode
k0ga
he is one of the founders of suckless ...
dsockwell
even if i hadn't seen this
stateless
k0ga, yes but as people deviate from suckless they go back to old habits
suckless is like a magnet
yes bi**h, magnets
dsockwell
FUCKING MAGNETS
stateless
k0ga, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwVDDxoKBk4
k0ga
stateless: yeah
I don't like any of the code we wrote in suckless
dsockwell
i havent seen much else from him
k0ga
he wrote a lot of small utilities (that nobody uses)
dsockwell
and im not really in a hurry to judge all his code based on this
k0ga
http://suckless.org/other_projects
dsockwell
it's clear that he's never tried to use it
k0ga
half of them are written by him
dsockwell
because it would never work for more than a few minutes
https://github.com/radare/radare2/commit/498e5314793368913bdb4b0d19316ba220d11670
FRIGN
dsockwell: what is this?
dsockwell
it's the networking code for radare2
FRIGN
what is radare2
?
dsockwell
this is the commit where someone went and replaced it with sh*t
it's a debuger
g
FRIGN
ok
why do you need networking code for a debugger?
does it send mail or what?
dsockwell
gdbserver
and it has its own protocols
and a web interface :|
FRIGN
wtf
it has SSL as well???
k0ga
FRIGN: and it is written by a suckless founder xD
FRIGN
k0ga: why is he no longer with us?
stateless
FRIGN, it is a pretty good debugger + reverse engineering tool, the best open source one that is
k0ga
I think __20h__ can explain it better than me
int
ups, wrong window
stateless
code is still better than gdb if anyone was unlucky enough to work with it
dsockwell
k0ga: remember, i did find the commit where thiis 'earada' person came through and introduced all the bogus stuff
stateless
:P
k0ga
stateless: he is also spaniard xD
stateless
really? I thought he was hungarian
ok
FRIGN
stateless: seriously?
k0ga
__20h__: told it to me
stateless
FRIGN, what are you replying to?
:P
dsockwell
i presumed everyone who wrote a debugger was Russian because the Russians did everything on paper when they couldn't steal enough computers from the west
FRIGN
yeah, that you thought he was hungarian
stateless
ah yes
:P
FRIGN
stateless: Eduardo Arada, you find out in 1ms that this is a beaner! :P
stateless
i hadn't checked his name
:P
in any case, he is a pretty good coder but maybe he is not a good maintainer :P
FRIGN
ol
lol
stateless
he is also the guy who works on void linux
he did all the stuff by himself i think
dsockwell
i think he needs someone to help him, and not like whoever put usleep() into socket-send
k0ga
he disliked my postion about gcc warnings xD
stateless
dsockwell, that's poor man's flow control ;)
dsockwell
but
it's TCP
stateless
yeah :P
lol
dsockwell
the worst par tis
i fixed that code as much as i dared
stateless
maybe the guy was high on drugs when he wrote it and thought he as communicating over decnet
dsockwell
and something still came along and clobbered the socket
before it was done transmitting
FRIGN
dsockwell: that's why your name is dSOCKwell
stateless
haha
dsockwell
really what i did was move usleep() two lines up so it wouldn't get skipped after the last send()
stateless
lul
don't mess with usleep!
dsockwell
the worst part is it seems like it works fine for everyone else
stateless
yes well that's a classic problem if ppl add arbitrary sleeps in their code
dsockwell
there are people in #radare today gushing about how awesome the web ui is
stateless
it basically boils down to "i don't know wtf im doing but putting this sleep makes it work on _my_ machine"
dsockwell
guess what code serves that
stateless
:P
dsockwell
wait, eduardo arada is pancake?
retard
the worst par tits
FRIGN
retard, TITS!
saw this as well
retard
these tits aren't on par
sub-par tits
dsockwell
i'm very proud of my sagging moobs tyvm
retard
i just popped a zit on my chest
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