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A7
RIP Wii U is what this is.
Hassun
that's the very top
JesseHaysFL
My point is if you run the company correctly 80m budgets are not a problem....
StaatsOne
my theory is that it really wasn't good enough, and they were suprised by MM success
A7
Star Fox and Zelda HAVE to be NX games now, right?
StaatsOne
splatoon and MM is a pretty decent line up
Iamawizard
I wanted another one. I mean, not actively every day, but I loved I and II and when I heard there wasn't going to be a III I was sad. If they do it exactly the same the game will suck. It was ap roduct of its time.
Hassun
@jesseyHaysFL oh they are going to make money it. But they are making a lot more money on pachislot and mobile and health clubs and ...
so why take the risk
that's the business view
StaatsOne
yeah a bunch of people would have bought starfox unseen
Mighty0ne
Nintendo's war chest allows for that
A7
By all accounts the demos were brutal.
Iamawizard
Nintendo: Making the hard decisions.
JesseHaysFL
3m copies at 60 each is 180m now lets cut that in half as I know Konami does not get all the box price....90m currently should mean 10m profit already.....christmas is coming......
MightySandwich
Persona 5 seemed iffy for 2015 from the get go
Hassun
@jessehaysFL Like I said they are going to make plenty of money onit
wizardofvideogam
A delayed game is eventually good, a bad one is bad forever. Like Duke Nukem: Forever.
JesseHaysFL
Konami should be fine...
StaatsOne
also Jeff no mention of PS VR? they announced a price appearently
A7
Is the NX really going to be a handheld?
JesseHaysFL
I just heard "a console price point" did they put a number on PSVR?
Mighty0ne
how much StaatsOne?
StaatsOne
399
Mighty0ne
wow that seems high
StaatsOne
this is what someone told me they read but judging from everyone else not hearing about it maybe it's not official
JesseHaysFL
400 seems very reasonable to me...
Mighty0ne
the Oculus is only 350
JesseHaysFL
oled screens, and Im sure its got a heck of a processor....
StaatsOne
seems like that's the cost of the tech
Hassun
399 is probably too much because the competitors are also around that price and they are more powerful
even if you need a PC to use them
A7
I'd kill to play Mario Maker on PS4 or X1.
JesseHaysFL
350 is FB money letting them lose cash or break even on Oc, PSVR has to make sony money;
Mighty0ne
I need to see some games before I judge the price because I could be talked into it
A7
No line for it. LOL.
StaatsOne
nintendo needs to release a sub-$200 console because it will always be someone's 2nd console
A7
StaatsOne +1
JesseHaysFL
wow I'm ootl, I have no idea what rice behind the ear means.
A7
If NX is a handheld it can't come in at over $300.
JesseHaysFL
Staats +1 just let us have the eshop NES SNES stuff for 199 on a amazon fire like tiny box and they would make billions
Mighty0ne
they still wanna sell systems
A7
JesseHaysFL Right? If they're going to put out lousy hardware just do it in the vain of Fire TV or Chromecast.
JesseHaysFL
yeah a cheap box, get 8bitdo to make you 20$ controllers and sell tons!
StaatsOne
also kinda interesting that this delay happened after the new prez was announced
his decision?
A7
I'd buy that. I refuse to pay over $200 for a Wii U.
StaatsOne
I think the market for old nintendo games is exageratted
JesseHaysFL
preload all the games on a hdd and make people pay to unlock them....easy barely even need an internet connection
MightySandwich
ttk
JesseHaysFL
were you born before or after 1985 Staats?
I think that determines how much you want these games....im an 80 baby and I have sooo many good memories....
StaatsOne
yeah but how many of those games have you actually paid money for?
I'm 34 years old btw
JesseHaysFL
All of them
StaatsOne
I think the novelty wears off pretty quick
I mean on the eshop
A7
I don't want the old games, the new ones.
JesseHaysFL
I wouldn't pay the 50 dollars we used to have to in the 80's but at a reasonable price? 4.99 would kill me
A7
Mario Maker could easily run on an Apple TV/Fire TV type box.
JesseHaysFL
I would buy everything available....
StaatsOne
they're available right now though
are you buying them?
JesseHaysFL
I don't have a wii, and I wont spend 300 to then begin to buy more...
StaatsOne
I think there is a market for old nes games but nothing to build a console business on
JesseHaysFL
but I have looked many times at retro consoles
StaatsOne
3ds...
you can also buy a wii for 100
JesseHaysFL
If I had a flea market near me that I could get used games? absolutely
A7
Isn't there an Oculus presser this week?
Mighty0ne
I think I am going to wait and see who wins so I dont end up with the lazer disc of VR
StaatsOne
anyways my point is, everyone SAYS they would buy these old games, but when it comes to actually spending money, it's a different story
A7
Mighty0ne Ditto. No reason to jump in head first.
StaatsOne
you can buy all these games digitally!
A7
Let a crazy like Jeff buy all of them and use 9/10 of them as paper weights and door stops.
JesseHaysFL
I hear you, maybe Im a special case because I would buy them, but I dont want to drop a lot of money to gain the privilege.
StaatsOne
anyways we've gone through that topic ad neasuem
DOA is for the pervy japanese market
JesseHaysFL
if it was a pack in like 15 games for 100 bucks on this box, thats a lot easier sale to me than hey buy this box for 100 and then start buying what you want
Mighty0ne
no you can be creepy and no one can see
now*
JesseHaysFL
and as to making new games, I think this would be a great way to fund NEW game development
eathdemon
tgs is irelavent to us, not japan
JesseHaysFL
fair enough staats
eathdemon
I got to use it at pax my order best to worst is htc vive, oculus, than in lasyt place playstation vr
Mighty0ne
I love the oculus but I don't use it enough to justify the cost
JesseHaysFL
htc because its cheap or because its best?
wizardofvideogam
The VR in Playstation VR stands for "Very Rich" not Virtual Reality.
StaatsOne
kickstart it jeff!
eathdemon
htc is the best, but will sadly be the most expensive
StaatsOne
Jeff's VR PROJECT
Mighty0ne
wait Jeff are you seriously going to buy all three VR devices?
A7
That's why we listen to, love, and supporter Jeff. He's a proxy for us. I applaud him for being willing to take the bullet on all of the VR/AR devices and letting us know which is best.
support*
wizardofvideogam
Wait, was he describing the beach volleyball game?
Mighty0ne
no some tetris game
A7
It's going to be niche no matter what.
It's 3D TV in another form.
eathdemon
persona 5 summer 2016
A7
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Chapter 6 Verse 17X
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