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totalpepper
I'm about to build a pc for ableton (win10), I posted it to /r/buildapc but maybe someone in here could have a quick look as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3f7gez/build_ready_pc_for_music_production/
Kimryd
I'm sorry, I'm not too well versed in computer hardware, I know a bit, but not enough to help you build a rig
I just got a new laptop though, I can tell you how it has performed for me under duress and post specs if you wish
totalpepper
thx! I don't know anything as well! First I picked items from a popular list on amazon and suddenly I had a $2500 gaming machine
Kimryd
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lol
well I know enough to not rack up the price to something high heh
totalpepper
yes, please tell me your cpu and the amount of ram?
because I've read quite a bit and sure, an i7 is better than an i5, but I'm not using cpu-heavy VSTs or massive kontakt libraries for 16GB of RAM. but still, I'm a bit unsure
Kimryd
Alright sure, I'll do what I can
I'm going to open live and tell you how one of my more complete projects fares in it
these are my specs
(Action) ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4710HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 12170 MB Total (8092 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M ** Uptime: 10.99 Hours **
Keep in mind this is a laptop
If I don't have it plugged it, it'll throttle itself down a stupid amount, in which case Live can easily overload the CPU with the usage meter going above and beyond 100%
totalpepper
ok
and are you using an external audio interface?
Kimryd
No
Under the hood, Live is using ASIO4ALL, 512 buffer size, 48 khz sample rate
totalpepper
ok, thx. these numbers don't really tell me anything :)
Kimryd
The high the sample rate, the more CPU power is needed
totalpepper
ok
Kimryd
44.1 khz is the standard, 48 is one rank above that
a lower buffer size means more CPU power is needed, the lowest it can go is 64 and highest is 2048
A lower buffer size also mean less latency
totalpepper
well, I guess it'll do alright. it's not a highend machine, but I probably won't need that
Kimryd
I'll ask someone who knows more about hardware than me
I'll show them what you linked
I'll report back soon
totalpepper
oh, wow. that's really nice
I've tried that. But those who knew about hardware were gamers. And the first thing they noticed was that I didn't pick a video card :)
and a non-overclocking friendly cpu-motherboard combo
Kimryd
Honestly, if you're using you computer only for music production, who gives a sh*t about a really boom GPU
My old laptop had intel hd graphics 4000
Worked just fine
The CPU was an i5-3337u
Which was a bit lacking for the stupid amount of stupid sh*t I do on my tracks
totalpepper
They just think I forgot it. And when I say I don't plan on gaming, they are even more confused
are you connecting an external monitor to your laptop?
Kimryd
I am not
But the native resolution of my laptop is 1920 x 1080
totalpepper
oh, ok. that's actually the same as my monitor
nice
Kimryd
I'm still consulting with him totalpepper
I'll be right back
totalpepper
sure, don't worry. that's so nice
Kimryd
I can be nice, only when I'm in the mood tho
brb
totalpepper, do you have or plan on getting hardware that you need to record?
totalpepper
audio?
yes, an external audio interface. something like a box from focusrite
Kimryd
Yeah, like a synthesizer or drum machine or hardware sampler or guitrs
totalpepper
ah no
Kimryd
Okay, so you don't need a fancy interface
I have this, but I have some synths and plan on getting more https://www.presonus.com/products/AudioBox-22VSL
totalpepper
no, only to connect krk rokits or plugin a midi keyboard
Kimryd
Do you have a midi controller currently?
totalpepper
yep, something like this. I haven't decided yet
yes, I have an old masterkeyboard, which is midi-only. no usb
Kimryd
Alright
So basically I'll tell you what he built, and it'll probably be cheaper
I'm just going to copy paste
I took an octocore AMD, low power for the quieter cooling. I spent money on fast 16G of RAM, making up for 4 drives in RAID 0+1.
RAM means caching drive data, so I get blazing fast access, keeping the corse busy.
Then I put money in a quiet cooler and a Xonar DSX card for quality sound
Use a coolermaster case with a couple of wide diameter fans to keep it moving
You can get any sh*tty GPU, it'll work fine for audio production
However, scratch the Xonar DSX
Why?
If you have an internal sound card, unless the card supports ASIO, you'll need to download a driver called asio4all for better performance
ASIO4ALL IS A HUGE PIECE OF SHIT
HUGE
>>>HUGE<<<
So just get whatever somewhat decent but not fancy sound card you like
As for an external interface, I'm going to loop up my local music shoppes wares and pick something
For sure you'll need MIDI in/out ports
So kiss the Scarlett 2i2 goodbye, since it doesn't have any
for some retarded reason
totalpepper
because all new keyboards use usb instead of midi. I'll have a look. if there are no decent interfaces with midi and a reasonable price, I'll just buy a new keyboard instead of going the other way
Kimryd
Wait, I found one
totalpepper
the 6i6 has midi
Kimryd
No need to get a new keyboard, I was just comparing some models
Yeah but that's overkill
You don't need 6 inputs and 6 outputs if you have no hardware other than a midi controller
https://www.presonus.com/products/AudioBox-USB
That's right up your alley
It's 130$ CAD at my local music shoppe
It has monitor outs, which you need and midi, which you need
My friend owns one and can vouch for it
It is powered via USB
totalpepper
that's perfect, I'll put it on my list
Kimryd
Indeed
Should you ever need inputs, it has two
Keep in mind that these are mic/instrument level inputs
Electronic instruments, such as synths, electric guitars and so on, output on line level
Line level is much louder than mic and instrument levels, so you would need a DI box with attenuator to lower the volume pre-input
That's okay though, the DI box I have cost 20$ and works like a charm
Keep in mind the audiobox USB only does 44.1 and 48 khz sample rate, but I'm pretty fu*king sure you don't need more than that lol
totalpepper
I'll read up on the octocore AMD, thanks again for the help!
bye
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