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jk4
i've seen this before
he must be in a channel where you have to be voiced to talk
specing
probably not anymore
pnoffke
!last
joakim
it's the last week to make some cool video to promote Ada and participate in dbotton's contest at www.learnadanow.com
I thought of writing a post about this at comp.lang.ada, but not sure I have the time
maybe somebody here on IRC would like to post and popularize the contest?
Lucretia
last week? I thought it was the last 3 days
joakim
ok, I have not checked the calendar very well
31:st of July is end date
Lucretia
aye
might not make it
joakim
I still have not made any movie... maybe I can manage to make one... but I hope others in the Ada community has been more industrious
Lucreatia: I hope we both manage to make a movie before the deadline :-)
Lucretia
it's looking very slim for me
Shark8
joakim: Lucretia: What is/was your project for the contest?
sparre
(Action) has to figure out how to make screencasts before Friday. ;-)
Lucretia
implement marco monster's car physics
sparre: install obs
Shark8
Lucretia: http://www.support.e-lecta.com/default.asp?topic=screenrecorder
Lucretia
no need, i have obs
Shark8
Lucretia: sparre: Sorry, I meant sparre.
Lucretia
you cn do it with ffmpeg, if you know the incantation
Shark8
I made two entries -- One a bulletin-board that uses types to prevent HTML/script injection; the other a little demo of Ada's time functionality as a little timer/reminder application.
Lucretia
I intended to show how generics can be use to switch between 2 and 3D
same code, different underlying types
Shark8
Hm, that's a really interesting idea.
I hope you get it done in time.
sparre
My plans are to demonstrate various compile time checks.
Lucretia
I mean you wouldn't do it in a real game, but it was to show that you don't need to rewrite sh*t all the time
and also show modular types for car selection
although I realised this would be best implemented as an enum
hence why I thought a modular enum would be a cool idea
sparre
Lucretia: Do you mean an enumeration with wrap-around semantics?
Lucretia
yup
sparre
You could fake it with a generic package, but it wouldn't be quite the same.
The tough challenge is to introduce the (whole) type system in 60 minutes.
Lucretia
yeah could use a generic to implement +/- with wrap around for enums
not a bd idea, actually
my plan was not to go too deeply into the type system, just to show how something can be done
sparre
You would probably only allow '+ 1' and not any random increment.
My primary plans are also just single examples of compile time checks, but if I magically find the time, an introduction to the type system is the big project for the competition.
Shark8
*cough* *cough* -- Oh, God, I think I have the IRC-flu... sparre, you've been exposed, you'd best take a sick day or two to ensure you don't spread it to your colleagues.
And what will you do with all the time you're incapacitated and quarantined?
;)
sparre
My daughter and my wife have decided that I have to visit two museums tomorrow.
Wednesday may be a "working day".
Thursday I have a friend visiting from Norway.
Lucretia
sparre: yeah
joakim
shark8: My plan was to demonstrate how to use https://github.com/joakim-strandberg/amock. Not that it is complete in any way, but a demonstration of how to use it if one would like to. Very cool that there are so many interesting contributions :)
Shark8
joakim: Interesting.
Lucretia
joakim: you should say what licence the generated code is under as well
joakim
Lucretia: What do you think about GNAT Modified License so one may use it in proprietary applications? Or is there some other license that is preferable for that?
Lucretia
(Action) would prefer BSD/MIT/somethingnonviruslike
or, pick-yer-own-licence
joakim
pick-yer-own-license would be good, but I can't recall seeing a project with that license text...
Lucretia
just put in the read me that any generated code can be put under any licence you want
joakim
I think gnoga is released with GCC Runtime Library exception
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gcc-exception-3.1.en.html
I will update it. I've been so busy with writing the code..
That the generated code can be put under any license the user wants is good since since it avoids license compatibility issues for users
thanks for the suggestion Lucretia
Lucretia
np
good choice
Shark8
I was watching this video [about an Erlang survey] and wondering if I should do something similar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MvKLOecT1I
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15mmK_qV8P9DKEhHUnIb1RFElQFTjVTZHH0S6pO1iWrQ/viewform?usp=send_form
pnoffke
joakim: Note that the GCC RLE may be removed by others that redistribute your code. Section 7 of GPLv3, second paragraph.
Lucretia
Shark8: who's questionairre is that?
Shark8
The google forms one I linked? I made it.
Lucretia
pnoffke: I don't he will use that version of the gpl for his code. he has agreed to allow anyone to use any licence they want on the generated code, whatever licence he slaps on the generator is up to him :D
Shark8: ah
says 14% done
Shark8
Yeah, there's multiple pages.
Lucretia
so that's the first page?
shouldn't it say 0% done?
pnoffke
Lucretia: np, just wanted to mention it.
Lucretia
Shark8: and what's it for?
Shark8
Lucretia: Possibly it should say 0%.
Lucretia
just makes me think i'm not on the first question
Shark8
(It might count optional answers as 'done' regardless of state.)
Hm, I see... (I'll have to look into it then)
Lucretia
shouldn't all questions be required?
Shark8
I'm not sure about that. A lot of the demographic stuff isn't too important.
Lucretia
the idea of a questionairre is to answer the questions, if the question isn't important, don't have it.
but if you want to have an idea of background, then make them required.
but what are you going to use it for? advertising?
Shark8
As to the purpose, the video I linked shows some of the trouble-spots of Erlang -- Documentation came up as pretty prominent.
joakim
pnoffke: thanks for pointing that out.
Lucretia
Shark8: ahh
pnoffke
joakim: you're welcome
Lucretia
yeah, i'll find the ruby one and watch the rest of the erlang one tomorrow when i'm off
Shark8
So something similar: find out what the perceptions are regarding Ada, and in particular its ecosystem.
Lucretia
yeah
also add in, if they'd be willing to use Ada
if not, why the fu*k not?
:P
also, find out what kind of applications people are using
writing
Shark8: but yeah, the vid is a good idea
can you do polls like this on youtube? Might be worth doing if you can
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