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marino
Visaoni: is that a serious question?
Visaoni
Well, if you want to write me something that'll let me generate PDFs (including sticking javascript in them) using Ada that'd be nice... I think the PDF spec is only upwards of a thousand pages or something
charlie5
(Action) used to cop frown-faces from ppl wanting less than 80 chars/line
Visaoni
marino: yes. I know the original reason, but I've never seen anything limited to 80 character line length
charlie5
(Action) looks warily at sparre
marino
Visaoni: you mean like the systems console ?
not everything is virtual terminal
graphic desktops are not built into OS's, they are hosted by X servers etc
Visaoni
marino: yes, but how many things are actually limited to just the systems console?
it's hard to imagine much of anything today that has a system console but can't handle a virtual terminal
marino
you can't impose this restriction on developers
you still with lowest common denominator
*stick
and charlie was going nuts anyway. I think he was > 150 chars
Visaoni
but instead you force restrictions on everybody for the very few, and if you insist on never restricting a single developer possibly we'll have 80 character limits in a couple thousand years :P
seems at some point you just have to move on
although > 150 is... a lot
antranigv
egilhh: ah, only windows, damn it :/
marino
Visaoni: you smell like a linux or windows user. :)
Visaoni: insisting somebody install 500 packages to work on ports makefiles is not reasonable
Visaoni
marino: And you'd be correct... although I have been planning on throwing a BSD on something... sometime :)
And that does /sound/ bad, but who the hell is going to be working on ports makefiles on a system without so much as a virtual terminal?
Although I suppose makefiles are a pretty good place to make the "every dev" argument...
if some poor soul ends up having to muck with them from the system console, they're already having a bad day
charlie5
(Action) nuts are far > 150 chars
oh gosh
did i really say that ?!
marino
Visaoni: ?? i spend 95% of my time on consoel
syscon
Visaoni
really? er, why?
marino
i don't require more
this is a dev machine
if I want the desktop I stay on mac
Visaoni
there's a big difference between desktop and a virtual terminal
marino
i might switch to desktop for meld-merge or maybe gps
i only need a virt term if I am ssh'ing in
charlie5
(Action) refrains the MP quote ... "Brothers, we sould be struggling together !"
Visaoni
I guess... seems like there's many nice things you're missing even if I suppose they aren't technically needed...
marino
like what?
charlie5
"Brothers, we sould be struggling together !"
Visaoni
well, lines > 80 characters for one! :P
marino
using mouse clicks to copy
charlie5
(Action) can keep this up all n8
marino
charlie5 just showed how that can be abused
once you have a scrollbar there is no practical limit
charlie5
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Visaoni
yes, but you can fit a great deal more than 80 on many screens without a scroll bar
charlie5
(Action) pipes down
Visaoni
I know, you need one around if you have variable line lengths
charlie5
mm, and i couldn't even get 'should' right
Visaoni
indeed charlie5...
I thought you might at least fix that first!
charlie5
at this time of n8 ?
it's almost tomorrow here !
marino: thanks again for the review (and fixes)
marino
charlie5: what is next?
charlie5
i'm happpy to try some more, if you can suggest something ?
well, there are a few possibilities, i guess
qt4ada ?
marino
already there
charlie5
mm, i'm sure i'd thought of others also
oh, nice
mm, welll
there is one thing with gps
i 1/2 mentioned it the other day
marino
no strong suggestions, maybe cla has ideads
see announcements in cla I mean
charlie5
when it hits an error during compile, it doesn't put error msgs/links in the 'Locations' window
marino
hmm, open a PR so I don't forget
charlie5
prob report ?
marino
yes
charlie5
(Action) is hopeless with 2LA's
marino
it's not showing up yet, but I changed license to GPLv2+GMGPL
charlie5
ok, do you have a PR link ?
marino
they are always dual/coupled
charlie5
:)
marino
freebsd bugzilla something
charlie5
(Action) can google
marino
bugs.freebsd.org prob.
charlie5
tah
marino
make sure it starts with "devel/gps: "
charlie5
hok
is there a blame button ? ... :D
(Action) hides beneath rock
Visaoni: so we can't dissuade you from JS hell ?
Visaoni
charlie5: only if you can go back in time and warn me to keep my damned trap shut :)
joakim
Here is a link to the video I made for the video contest at learnadanow.com. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz_OaDbpx0
charlie5
Visaoni: "go back in time and warn me to keep my damned trap shut" -> would solve 99.9% of world strife
heh, well ... no it wouldn't, i guesss
it would solve a helluva lot of my woes tho :)
Visaoni
ha, indeed
unfortunate situation... small-scale enough to warrant straight pdfs, but complicated enough to need more than "write whatever you want whereever you want, or don't want"
charlie5
Visaoni: w/o trying to sound too ada-centered ... but is there any ada-centered applicability ?
:P
joakim: thanks for preview
Visaoni
charlie5: I'll do my best to find something to do with Ada somewhere if it makes you happy...
joakim
charlie5: np :-)
Visaoni
although considering the next step involves Word documents, I don't have any great hope :P
charlie5
Visaoni: yeah, sorry ... i figured that last of mine might have come across the wrong way
thing is i don;t know anything about PDF's, bar how to read them :)
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