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Lucretia
just found a cheeky fu*ker here selling a book on amazon.com for $4ish and on amazon.co.uk for £15ish
charlie5
!quote
Allegra--
When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right.
-- Eugene Victor Debs, in the speech at his trial for sedition in Cleveland, 1918
sparre
Good morning (+time zone corrections)
charlie5
morning sparre
tkoskine
Hello
charlie5
hi tero
marble_visions
Shark8: you are Dhark8 from time to time, aren't you?
I am reading the DIANA doc now
and I am wondering, in the case of submitting stable code to that future codebase
why not just say that submissions need to include their own testbench?
hardware descitpion language designs usually have this unwritten rule, and I think opencores.org enforces it
or at least they say "pretty please"
do you think test code generation can be automated with DIANA so the developers don't need to bother?
s/desciption/description/
antranigv
it's easier to understand programming with Ada, python's "simplicity" made stuff harder to understand :)) to bad there is no non-programmers book for Ada, most of the books require knowledge.
Visaoni
antranigv: Barnes' book seems fairly aimed at a non-programmer
charlie5
antranigv dissapears each time i am about to talk to him
!quote
Allegra--
There's nothing new under the sun, but there are lots of old things we don't know.
-- Ambrose Bierce
charlie5
what about those new particles they made at cern ?
egilhh
they're not new. We just haven't discovered them before
charlie5
did the sun make some ?
egilhh
big bang surely did.
charlie5
nothing new under the *sun* ... ;)
.... but yeah, BB would have made most things i guess
egilhh
I took that figuratively...
charlie5
not that my guesses amount to much
yeah, sorry
(Action) being a pedantic 'smart-arse'
actually, i really like bierce
egilhh
besides, what's *under* the sun, anyway? It's a spheroid, with equal amounts of gravitational pull on each side...
charlie5
i took it to mean 'anything on earth' (as in usual meaning)
egilhh
(/me can be a pedantic 'smart-arse' too :p )
charlie5
lol
(Action) parries egilhh-smartarsey and ripostes with ...
... err, can't think of any really cutting reply ... hmmm
(Action) will have to ponder it some
:)
egilhh
I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries....
charlie5
MP ... oh, please !
tho i am glad to see they are still popular
when *I* was a lad, we got up b4 we went to bed, drank a cup of cold arensic and ...
(Action) disremembers the rest
(Action) has missed the contest deadline
probly a good thing
(Action) toddles off to watch the footy
marble_visions
by definition, MP are always popular :)
antranigv: there are a few online tutorials for ada aimed at non-programmers
antranigv
marble_visions: wow, any links?
marble_visions
antranigv: yep, just searching for them now
antranigv
tnx marble_visions (:
charlie5
antranigv: what OS are you on ?
antranigv
charlie5: GNU+Linux (:
charlie5
heh, nice ... which linux ?
marble_visions
antranigv: whoops: "This tutorial assumes that you have had some exposure to some other algorithmic programming language (such as Pascal, C, C++, or Fortran). "
yeah, I don't have any.
antranigv
charlie5: Funtoo (Gentoo variant).
marble_visions: I know basics of Python and Pascal, but I cannot say that I'm a programmer (However I can make some CLI programs for my own needs :P)
marble_visions: isn't that Ada Crash Course ?
charlie5
antranigv: a few ppl here use gentoo ... nerdboy and Lucretia (i think)
marble_visions
charlie5: gentoo here as well
antranigv
charlie5: yes, I had hard time installing GNAT, many problems, in the end I installed the binaries from AdaCore.
marble_visions
antranigv: oh, that's what I had in mind -- http://www.infres.enst.fr/~pautet/Ada95/a95list.htm
charlie5
antranigv: ada is not that dissimilar to pascal in many repects
respects
marble_visions: ah, good to know ... i should try it a vbox also sometime ... lately i've been focusing on archlinx (as is probly obvious)
antranigv
marble_visions: how did you install GNAT?
marble_visions
charlie5: gentoo in a VM is awesome. when you start fiddling with lapop peripherals it gets ugly.
charlie5
laptop ?
marble_visions
antranigv: i didn't. i am running fedora on my main
charlie5: yes.
--- on my main laptop. i use gentoo for everything else.
after I've figured out all the peripherals I'm switching to gentoo on the laptop as well.
charlie5
gentoo was almost the 1st linux i tried after windows hell
marble_visions
ouch.. how did that feel? what year was that?
charlie5
but it was too big a bite to swallow for a gui gumby like me
ack, way back in 2002-ish
marble_visions
yeah, the wild wild west days of gentoo. things are pretty calm and stable now
charlie5
mm, progressions was ... gentoo, mandrake, ubuntu, debian, archlinux, ubuntu, arhclinux, ubuntu, freebsd, dragonflybsd, pcbsd
marble_visions
did the license made you switch to the bsds?
charlie5
or something like that :)
no, i get the feeling that the bsd's are a bit more 'professional' somehow
didn;t apple use freebsd as a base for it's OS ?
marble_visions
that might have been true way way back. linux destroys *bsd over any topic
yes, not anymore
Natacha
yes, and Sony too
charlie5
also, ada support on the BSD's is pretty good nowadays
marble_visions
i've been having this discussion about bsd vs linux security and the general consensus is that linux' view of security is better
charlie5
that's surprising
i got the idea that bsd was better security wise
liste
marble_visions better than which bsd?
charlie5
one of them specialises in security, i think
liste
the OpenBSD guys are pretty serious about security
Natacha
but at the cost of performance and compatibility with poorly-written apps
marble_visions
yeah, but their approach is flawed, they are just starting to implement stuff that's been available for linux for a long time
Natacha
like strlcpy :-D
marble_visions
to be clear -- the base system of openbsd is rock solid
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